tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-423815608168342684.post27773220176431737..comments2024-03-13T02:57:59.591-07:00Comments on Pointing Dog Blog: Breed of the Week: German Longhaired PointerCraig Koshykhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00551849205683278959noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-423815608168342684.post-17990539491034096522015-07-12T02:42:52.936-07:002015-07-12T02:42:52.936-07:00They are fantastic dogs, not only for hunting but ...They are fantastic dogs, not only for hunting but as a companions too. Very loving dogs.<br />Tegshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03591955203868242241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-423815608168342684.post-9961443958531004972014-02-25T08:57:55.021-08:002014-02-25T08:57:55.021-08:00The setter breeds were only officially declared ab...The setter breeds were only officially declared about 150 years ago. Prior to that cross breeding was widely practiced..and with Pointers too (but to a lesser extent. Setter x Pointer crosses were known as 'Droppers'). <br><br>In the US in the late 1800s, cross breeding was also done quite a lot and there was a 'breed' called the Native Setter which was basically a mix of any two or more setter breeds. In fact the very first national field trial was won by a Native Setter. <br>Dog Willinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16830138886047757371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-423815608168342684.post-8965728109431840792014-02-23T12:42:08.060-08:002014-02-23T12:42:08.060-08:00I've wondered about the same thing with the Se...I've wondered about the same thing with the Setter lines (English, Irish, IR&W, Gordon). Has anyone specifically and intentionally "cross bred" these lines? Again as Anonymous said above, I'm sure there are those purists that would strongly object. But I find that attitude a little odd considering many (most?) of these breeds were developed from mixes and "created by blending local types of hunting dogs with breeds from other countries." Personally I don't see the need to feel we are at a dead end and think it would be good if we continued to develop new breeds. drjungst@hotmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-423815608168342684.post-33073366028579521442014-02-23T12:17:10.375-08:002014-02-23T12:17:10.375-08:00Louisa - a change of subject, but I noticed that y...Louisa - a change of subject, but I noticed that your description is "Gundog Artist specializing in the Irish Native Breeds" so I have a question for you. Do you ever see "Shower of Hail" Irish Setters? drjungst@hotmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-423815608168342684.post-23158112673831848722014-02-25T08:57:55.020-08:002014-02-25T08:57:55.020-08:00The setter breeds were only officially declared ab...The setter breeds were only officially declared about 150 years ago. Prior to that cross breeding was widely practiced..and with Pointers too (but to a lesser extent. Setter x Pointer crosses were known as 'Droppers'). <br /><br />In the US in the late 1800s, cross breeding was also done quite a lot and there was a 'breed' called the Native Setter which was basically a mix of any two or more setter breeds. In fact the very first national field trial was won by a Native Setter. <br />Dog Willinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16830138886047757371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-423815608168342684.post-14460086210721145962014-02-23T12:42:08.059-08:002014-02-23T12:42:08.059-08:00I've wondered about the same thing with the Se...I've wondered about the same thing with the Setter lines (English, Irish, IR&W, Gordon). Has anyone specifically and intentionally "cross bred" these lines? Again as Anonymous said above, I'm sure there are those purists that would strongly object. But I find that attitude a little odd considering many (most?) of these breeds were developed from mixes and "created by blending local types of hunting dogs with breeds from other countries." Personally I don't see the need to feel we are at a dead end and think it would be good if we continued to develop new breeds. drjungst@hotmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-423815608168342684.post-16318140429561644072014-02-23T12:17:10.374-08:002014-02-23T12:17:10.374-08:00Louisa - a change of subject, but I noticed that y...Louisa - a change of subject, but I noticed that your description is "Gundog Artist specializing in the Irish Native Breeds" so I have a question for you. Do you ever see "Shower of Hail" Irish Setters? drjungst@hotmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-423815608168342684.post-2119544678849833492013-12-23T13:19:39.951-08:002013-12-23T13:19:39.951-08:00Yes, the GLP and LM were once considered the same ...Yes, the GLP and LM were once considered the same breed (actually, to be more accurate, the black and white coat was, at one time, accepted by the GLP club in Germany. When the rules changed to disqualify the black and white coat in the GLP, those who disagreed with that move formed a new club and called their dogs Large Munsterlanders). <br><br>And yes, there have been crosses between the two since the official split, but not for many years. In fact the most recent crosses in the GLP were GSP's. It seems that the GLP club in Germany realized that they needed some added genetic diversity in their lines so they looked at the LM and the GSP. Apparently the GLP and LM clubs could not come to an agreement, so the GSP was chosen. More info (in German) here: http://www.sueddeutscher-club-langhaar.de/zuchtversuch.html<br>Genetics are tricky things and assuming that "such crosses would stand a good chance at being greater than the sum of their parents, in particular as regards overall health" is not always a sure thing. <br><br>Craig Koshykhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00551849205683278959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-423815608168342684.post-51157639566964427442013-12-22T22:46:19.281-08:002013-12-22T22:46:19.281-08:00Great photos of a lovely breed. Given that GLPs an...Great photos of a lovely breed. Given that GLPs and Large Munsterlanders were once the same breed (if I understand the story correctly), I wonder if anyone has reunited the two breeds (by breeding them together) and how well the progeny hunt. A simple but fascinating idea - to me at least, although I suppose it would make some folks from the respective breed clubs hair catch on fire. Here are two lines that were separated solely based on coat color, then developed independent of one another by passionate, devoted hunter/breeders for the better part of a century. By my understanding of genetics (which is actually a big part of my job), I would think that progeny of such crosses would stand a good chance at being greater than the sum of their parents, in particular as regards overall health. Has anyone tried this or is it simple heresy? There are very few paired breeds like this with known histories that present this possibility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-423815608168342684.post-27355042974339151502013-07-17T07:27:37.033-07:002013-07-17T07:27:37.033-07:00They best Dogs in the world They best Dogs in the world Wilma De Graafhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10623448552815368339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-423815608168342684.post-33967837834351006722013-05-21T18:49:42.069-07:002013-05-21T18:49:42.069-07:00I first saw these dog in Germany in '88 in the...I first saw these dog in Germany in '88 in the Northern part. great eyes that really hold your gaze very friendly but not so common as other pointers maybe because they are not so fast and have their own particular gait. Hope nobody tries to change them and keeps them pure, Louia Nally from the bogs of Ireland........Gundog Artist specializing in the Irish Native Breeds<br>www.dogartireland.comLouisa Nallyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07118925511274646764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-423815608168342684.post-60694797271393135202013-02-12T15:01:33.152-08:002013-02-12T15:01:33.152-08:00I miss Rhett so much.I miss Rhett so much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-423815608168342684.post-29791091574720211002012-04-24T19:02:36.681-07:002012-04-24T19:02:36.681-07:00Yes indeed! There is some debate centered around t...Yes indeed! There is some debate centered around the use of the original German name for the GSP/GWP and GLP breeds and the translated English name. I explain certain aspects of the debate in the introduction of my book. I also include in each breed chapter a "What's in a Name" section that explains the origin, meaning and, in some cases any issues with the translation. In the GLP chapter I wrote: The name of the breed is very straightforward. Deutsch Langhaar means “German Longhair”. The official FCI translation of the name is German Longhaired Pointing Dog. In North America and the UK, it is generally known as the German Longhaired Pointer, but some English speaking breeders prefer to use the German breed name.Craig Koshykhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00551849205683278959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-423815608168342684.post-5977511092167956212012-04-24T18:54:04.727-07:002012-04-24T18:54:04.727-07:00I think some people are very particular about the ...I think some people are very particular about the name DL (Deutche Langhaar) vs GL, similarly to GSP vs DK (Kurzhaar)LKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05787620966801251064noreply@blogger.com